Sofie talks to Sophie Williams about being an advocate, business, writing books, instagram, the murder of George Floyd, proximity to whiteness, taking 14 years off from chocolate and biscuits, talking to different audiences, the glass cliff and the glass ceiling.

Sophie has written two books that you should check out: Millennial Black and Anti-Racist Ally: An Introduction to Activism and Action

Here is her TED Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/sophie_williams_the_rigged_test_of_leadership

Content Warning: COVID, racism, racist violence, police violence, family estrangement, anxiety, sexism, injections

Produced by Dave Pickering

Sofie Hagen online:
Twitter: @SofieHagen
Facebook: facebook.com/sofiehagen.komiker
Web: sofiehagen.com
Instagram: @sofiehagendk

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