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The following podcast is a dear media

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production. In

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a world of ever-changing wellness trends and information,

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what does it mean to truly be

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well? I'm Arielle Lorry and

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I'm going to explore this with you.

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I am bringing you candid conversations that will

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equip you with everything you need to live

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your best life and look good doing it.

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Think of well as your go-to resource for

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all of the latest in wellness and me

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as your internet bestie. Well, let's

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get into it. Hi

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everybody. Welcome to the show. I

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have such a fun, light, great

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episode for you guys today

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because I am talking to

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my friend Daniela Esrati. So

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she is a nurse practitioner. She worked

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in critical care for many, many years

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before opening her own

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wellness and aesthetics practice, EIA Aesthetics

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in Atlanta, Georgia. You may have

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caught our other part to this

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interview back in August where she

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turned the tables on me and

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interviewed me. This

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is kind of similar. I'm interviewing

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her, but it's very conversational, just

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very real talk about things like

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aesthetics and wellness, mostly aesthetics, if

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I'm being honest. So

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in this episode, we talk a little bit

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about ozempic and ozempic fatigue and off-label uses

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from ozempic. That's in the beginning. If you

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don't care about that, don't worry. It's only

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the first few minutes. And then we get

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into the aesthetics and the beauty of it

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all. So we talk about peptides. We talk

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about this war on filler. Filler

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has gotten a really bad rap

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and it doesn't necessarily deserve it.

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We also talk about filler dysmorphia.

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We talk about our skincare non-negotiables,

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free beauty hacks that everybody can

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do, skincare tips. We

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talk face tape. We talk estrogen

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cream, topical estrogen cream, which you

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guys were very interested in when

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I talked about it with Wendy

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Zomner last fall. We also talk

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hydration myths. they're

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done with it. They lost their weight, they wanna

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eat, not normal again, but they

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want to not be on a medication. They wanna

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go back to the way that they were eating.

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And you can see some of that rebound in

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Hollywood. You can see a little bit of those

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five to 10 pounds that have come back on

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a lot of those celebrities. And then there are

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some people who were just absolutely

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so happy that their life has changed. They

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have no side effects, they're dosed

4:24

correctly, and they feel great. I

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think the thing about it is it really

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matters who you go to, how you're

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dosed, and that's the experience that can

4:35

differ from person to person and can

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make people have a really bad

4:40

interaction with it

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or really good interaction. And

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I think another great thing that came from

4:47

it is it really got us as women

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talking about protein and muscle

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building. And it really started that

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conversation, which I think now has

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become so important. So sometimes the

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drawback or the muscle loss that

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can sometimes happen with ozempic in

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the wrong hands has really opened

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this conversation about protein and women.

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I'm always happy to talk

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about that conversation, protein, but

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I had a doctor on

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the podcast recently and she was talking about

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how a lot of the bad PR around

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ozempic was really human

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error and not

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attributed to the medication itself. But like you

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were saying, it's a dosing thing. That's where

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the gastroparesis comes in. That's where the ozempic

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face maybe comes in when people are rapidly

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losing so much weight and they're not eating

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in the correct way to maintain that muscle

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mass, they're not working out. All of that,

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and that comes down to really the provider

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and not so much the peptide itself. And

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then she was also saying, which

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I found interesting, I don't know your thoughts on

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this, that perhaps the bad

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PR was coming

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from a lot of the other

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companies and industries that were losing

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money as a result of people

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losing weight. So what do

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you think about that? I love

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that episode. She was amazing. She's

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a chiropractic naturopathic and she was

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talking about using it for anti-inflammatory

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and it really works in microdosing

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for inflammation. And that's something

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that a lot of people don't know, but I

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love it for that and she does too. Yes,

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so here's the thing. And then we can move

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on because I'm sure people have

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ozmpic fatigue from us. But the

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fact that you can go on a website,

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answer some questions, never speak

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to a human provider, doctor, nurse

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practitioner, and then they send you

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a weight loss medication and there's

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no follow-up. Of course there's

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gonna be disaster. They're getting too

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high of doses. They may not need it

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in the first place. They may not be

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truthful about what their medical history is and

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that's where the disaster happens. We've had

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over 380 patients come through our program. We've

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not had a single complication. I

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have and run a different program.

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It's not for everybody. I use

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the lowest dose. We

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never go up unless someone stalls

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in their weight for over two

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weeks. They have to see me

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once a month for check-in. That

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means how are you doing? Are

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you eating your protein? Is your relationship

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with food changing for the better? And

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I'm also looking for cues because

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losing weight can be not

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addictive, but it can definitely become, it

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can definitely change your relationship with food

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and your own body. And so I'm

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always looking for those cues of, are

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we still having a good relationship with

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our body and food? Are we still

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seeing ourselves as others see us? Or

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are there warning signs that maybe

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we've taken this too far and it's time to

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peel back? So it's usually

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like everything else, never the drug's

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fault. It's the provider and the

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oversight. When it comes to this

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conspiracy theory about sick

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care in the United States, I like

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to think that most people, have

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everyone's good intentions. And we are,

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and we talked about this on

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our last podcast, is that the

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American Society of Medicine doesn't do

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a good job of taking care and

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keeping people well. We're really good

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at sick care. Now, is

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someone sitting behind a desk going, we have

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to keep everybody sick? I don't think so,

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and I really hope not. Is

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big pharma and big food, do

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they make and manufacture foods that aren't great

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for us? They do. Do they put additives

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in them that get

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us more addicted to food? They do.

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But I hope, and I don't think

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that anybody that's a

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good human wants to see anybody ill.

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But there is industry in everything that

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we do. Yeah, and

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you have a unique perspective on this

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because you were essentially working in sick

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care for so long, and that's something

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that we talked about on the last

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podcast. But I remember you saying that

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you wanted to go from helping people

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die well to helping people live well.

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So what are some of

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those foundational things that you

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recommend everybody do to live

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well? You know what,

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that again has evolved and changed. And

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last time I was here, this shows again how

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much has changed. Last time when I was here,

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we had peptides that we were using a ton

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of, and I really thought that peptides were gonna

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be the next frontier in keeping people well. And

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the FDA decided in November to

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take most of our peptides from

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us. And there's

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all different theories about why

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that happened. And peptides, they're

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very safe. They're building blocks

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of amino acids. They're in

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our body naturally occurring. So no one

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knows exactly why that happened. But any

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ethical provider is not prescribing

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certain ones. So if you were to ask me

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this question last year, I would tell you that

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peptides are a big piece of the equation. But

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we had to pivot and figure out, okay, well,

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we don't really have all of those anymore. What

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are the other things that we can do? So

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you can get as... Simple

10:00

as walking outside,

10:02

grounding your feet, eating

10:06

like our grandparents told us to,

10:08

whole foods, whole fruits and vegetables,

10:10

staying away from processed things, right?

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Very, very simple. To getting a

10:14

little bit more complex like doing

10:17

NAD, since we don't have the

10:19

peptides, NAD is a wonderful anti-aging

10:21

tool. It's not for

10:23

everybody, it's a time commitment, it's expensive. So

10:26

we have to look and meet the

10:28

person where they are. Are they wanting

10:31

to take someone who's really, really, really

10:33

healthy, doing all the things, eating healthy

10:35

food, non-processed food, getting five minutes of

10:38

sunlight in the morning, grounding their feet

10:40

and then taking it to the next

10:42

step, doing NAD, doing infrared sauna, doing

10:45

dry brushing, all of those things. That's

10:48

great for that person, but it may

10:50

be as simple as just going into

10:52

somebody's pantry and taking out the

10:54

cornflakes and reminding them

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to eat yogurt or eggs for

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breakfast, things that are from the

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ground, from the earth. So I

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think wellness and those pillars need

11:06

to meet the person where they are, so it

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becomes more of a lifestyle than a quick fad.

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And you see people now doing, I

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mean, all kinds of things, they're doing

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stem cell transplants and all of these

11:18

things that are just, I mean, they're

11:20

like from another planet. I think for

11:23

most of us, eating well,

11:25

staying away from processed foods,

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not smoking, drinking alcohol on

11:29

rare occasions, doing some

11:31

sort of self-care because we're in

11:34

such a grind in our

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society. Our phones are inundated

11:38

with all kinds of media.

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Some of it's good. Right now we're

11:42

in an election cycle. People are very

11:44

heightened. It's not all good. So I

11:46

think doing self-care, trying to bring the

11:48

inflammation and the cortisol down. And

11:51

then finding a provider that you

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can kind of walk through

11:56

life with that's going to listen to you.

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And unfortunately, most of the time, Most of

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those people like myself are going to be out

12:02

of pocket paid. Your PCP

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or your regular OBGYN is

12:07

unlikely going to be able to help guide

12:09

you as you age to

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do all of the things. They just don't

12:13

have the time. So I think that if

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you're going to spend some money, it may

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be on a person who's going to keep

12:20

closed tabs on you. You could have a

12:22

relationship with that can do some lab testing

12:24

that's going to be very significant that can

12:26

catch things early, treat them early. And

12:29

that's going to kind of follow you through

12:31

the aging process. You

12:36

guys know that my morning matcha is my

12:38

absolute favorite part of the day. I

12:41

have the recipe on my Instagram and

12:43

my TikTok, but I'll tell you guys

12:45

how I make it because it could

12:47

not be simpler. So the night before

12:49

I drink it, I add some malc

12:52

almond milk and my matcha

12:54

and a little bit of maple syrup to

12:56

a blender. I blend it up. I put

12:58

it in the fridge. I let it sit

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overnight and it becomes so creamy and delicious.

13:02

The perfect amount of sweetness. It's so good.

13:05

And when it comes to the

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strength, it all comes down to

13:10

the milk that you use. So

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I love malc. It's a premium

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plant-based milk made with simple, high

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quality ingredients. It's incredibly delicious, perfect

13:18

consistency, but it has no fillers,

13:21

no gums, no seed oils, no

13:23

artificial flavors or other additives commonly

13:25

found in plant-based milks. Now

13:28

they also have malc creamers. It's

13:30

a clean and creamy addition to

13:32

your morning routine. So these are

13:34

dairy-free. They're made again without any

13:37

gums, oils, artificial whiteners, other not

13:39

so natural flavors. They're

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just made with clean organic ingredients and

13:43

they're sweetened with low glycemic coconut

13:45

sugar. So the malc

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creamers are available in vanilla almond,

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caramel almond, and lightly sweetened oat.

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I'm very into doing this like

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kind of cold foam matcha now.

13:57

So I'll have my matcha in the morning. I'll

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pour it into a bowl. glass and then I'll

14:02

froth a little bit of the vanilla almond or

14:04

the caramel almond, really into the vanilla right now.

14:06

And I'll add that to the top of my

14:08

matcha so it's like that cold foam kind of

14:10

flavor. It's chef's kiss so good.

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sure that we have all heard

14:27

about the importance of taking our

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omega fatty acids. However, a lot

14:32

of omega-3 fish oil supplements go

14:35

bad before they even leave the bottle,

14:37

resulting in supplements that don't improve your

14:39

health. This is why I opt for

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be discovered in 90 years. This is what

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have confirmed that it's three times

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better, broader, and safer than omega-3.

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skin is our largest organ. And

16:35

when you are putting products on

16:37

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16:39

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16:46

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A big part of your practice, of course, is

18:35

the external as well, aesthetics. So

18:37

I'm sure everybody listening is like,

18:39

okay, I do these foundational things,

18:42

but what do I do to stay

18:44

looking good? I mean, those trends change

18:46

so quickly. I feel like we were

18:48

just talking about like the war on

18:50

filler. There's always something,

18:53

some product, new and hot

18:55

coming down the pipeline. So

18:57

what is your philosophy when

18:59

it comes to maintaining on

19:02

the outside? I could talk all

19:04

day about this. So my philosophy is,

19:07

I feel like it gets said too

19:09

much, natural, natural, natural. Everyone

19:12

wants to look natural for the most part, but what does

19:14

that mean? And it can

19:16

mean something different for everybody. Like

19:18

natural to me means

19:21

refined, polished, really

19:23

soft. And so I think if you

19:25

look at our Instagram or you look

19:27

at my, if you know my patients,

19:29

they all look like themselves, but a

19:32

very softer version. So I like to

19:35

round out the hard edges. And that means

19:37

like, if you've got a deep set edge

19:39

line, a little bit of Botox goes a

19:41

very long way. I know,

19:44

I know. Shutting a tear. I know.

19:47

And you know, right. And it's filler again, it's like the

19:49

osm because it's not the filler's fault. And

19:52

we were about to have this conversation yesterday and

19:55

Arielle and I, we saw a car accident happen and

19:57

then this woman got out of her car. And

20:00

it was crazy. First of

20:02

all, this woman, we were

20:04

sitting outside creation, eating lunch,

20:07

and this woman laid on

20:09

her horn and then cut

20:12

around this car, this older lady, swiped

20:15

her car, went up on the curb, and

20:17

then just turned, she was- Was

20:19

bananas. Filled with rage. And now I think I

20:21

know why. Wait. Because you can tell them. So

20:23

we were just like, there wasn't even a lane,

20:25

and she just made her own lane, and she

20:28

gets out of the car, and we

20:30

were like, oh, well, she

20:33

didn't need an airbag because she had those lips. If

20:36

you think that we're being mean or exaggerating,

20:38

we're not. No. It was like- It

20:40

was bananas. It looked like

20:42

a blow up doll. Right. Out

20:45

and up, and very hard.

20:47

And hard. I was like, maybe she just

20:49

got them dissolved because it was so exaggerated.

20:53

I've never seen anything like that, to be totally honest.

20:55

To be totally honest. And so I guess

20:58

when you see things like that, that's where

21:00

the average person comes in, and they're so

21:02

terrified. They're like, oh my God. Because you

21:05

see that, and you think that that's the norm.

21:07

But that's the abnormal. That

21:09

should never happen. What

21:11

I tell my patients is, just because

21:13

you can, doesn't mean you should. And

21:16

so there's not a lot of regulations on who

21:18

can and can't do ascetic procedures. Yes, you have

21:20

to have a medical license. Yes, you have to

21:23

be a nurse practitioner or a PA. But

21:25

they don't ask you, like, how did you

21:27

train? Where did you train? And for

21:30

me, I feel like it's

21:32

my job to be the most qualified,

21:34

the most trained. And while I

21:36

need to stay up on

21:39

things, I never jump on trends. And

21:42

so I see filler as

21:44

a beautiful tool, and

21:46

it should enhance you, and it shouldn't take

21:49

away. And nobody should know that you've had

21:51

it unless you want them to. If

21:54

you leave my office and someone goes, whoa,

21:56

you got your cheeks done, then I didn't

21:58

do my job correctly. And I

22:01

think that's the difference is you've got to take the

22:03

time and explain to your patients. This is

22:05

going to be expensive. And hopefully

22:08

nobody noticed. They think, oh, you

22:10

got new makeup or you look

22:12

rested or oh, wow, did you

22:14

lose weight? Filler should make you look

22:17

like you lost weight, not gained weight. And

22:20

so I think having those conversations and telling people

22:22

it's going to be expensive, but

22:24

no one's going to know. And that's the way

22:26

you want it. And I think that sometimes providers

22:29

that aren't as educated or don't have the

22:31

time to spend, they put in a bunch

22:33

because they want their patient to see it,

22:35

not recognizing that that's just not going to

22:38

serve them in the long run. Filler

22:40

done right is safe and

22:43

it can be a beautiful tool

22:45

to help with either

22:47

augmenting or preserving. And I like

22:50

to look at aesthetics two ways,

22:52

preservation or augmentation.

22:56

And you approach those in two different

22:58

ways. What about, I don't

23:00

know what type of scan this is, but

23:02

I don't know all over my Instagram or

23:05

maybe MRI or something thermal where it's

23:07

showing where the filler is even after

23:09

years. And you hear from plastic surgeons

23:11

who are like, oh, I did

23:14

a facelift and there was all this filler.

23:16

So we do know that it

23:19

doesn't necessarily go away

23:21

like we were once told it

23:23

did. Right. You navigate that.

23:26

Yes. And so just this week,

23:28

someone came into my office for lips and

23:31

she came in and I walked into the

23:33

room and I'd never seen her before. And

23:35

I immediately could go one, two, I knew

23:37

exactly what she had done, right? Which already

23:39

is not our aesthetic or my aesthetic. She

23:41

had big volume of cheeks. She had that

23:43

long hanging lip with a lot of filler

23:45

in it, you know? And I said to

23:47

her, no, you didn't. Pre-lip lift?

23:50

Yes, because I was trying to

23:53

change the shape of the lip and

23:55

shorten the filter with filler. I

23:57

mean, it was bad. It wasn't that bad. Really

23:59

bad. I'll throw up a picture. It

24:01

was really bad. So

24:05

right you have never taken a bad photo ever

24:08

So I sat down with her and I said I

24:10

know this is why you're not here But

24:12

I cannot put filler anywhere in your face.

24:15

I need to actually remove it So

24:17

those conversations are never fun for the patient

24:19

to have because they think they're going to

24:21

come in She obviously saw herself in the

24:24

mirror and thought that she needed more lip

24:26

filler and here I am She's ever

24:28

met before and I'm telling her no and I

24:30

need to take out what you have because it's not placed

24:32

appropriately Or it's just been there too long. So

24:35

I think that like Normalizing those conversations

24:37

is a good place to start. We

24:39

know that filler does last longer There's

24:42

so many different fillers on the market

24:44

some last longer than others some are

24:46

more cross-linked It also depends on how

24:49

it's placed where you place it there's

24:52

that MRI scan is There's

24:55

two different camps for some people that find it

24:57

to be very helpful and there's some who are

24:59

saying it's completely It

25:02

doesn't represent What's really

25:04

happening under the skin and I think

25:07

he had good intentions of it and

25:09

this is my problem with

25:12

all of the noise on social media is

25:16

it's causing a lot of decision paralysis

25:18

for women and You're

25:20

seeing mostly plastic surgeons

25:24

There's one guy who's in the

25:26

West Coast and he's actually a dermatologist But

25:28

it's doing surgery and he's one

25:31

of the bigger louder voices about

25:33

it and they're only talking about

25:36

complications during surgery if you've

25:38

had filler or Sculpture

25:42

and While I think those are

25:44

important conversations to have as a

25:47

society and as colleagues It's

25:49

not fair to have that conversation

25:52

about surgical complications and only talk

25:54

about it if you've had filler

25:57

or Sculpture surgical complications

25:59

can happen regardless of

26:02

filler or sculpture. And

26:04

they're known. You can have

26:06

an incisional complication. You can have nerve

26:08

damage. You can have unsightly

26:11

scars. You can have

26:13

infection. You know, fat transfers are

26:15

wonderful, but they're not benign. You

26:18

can get fat necrosis. And

26:20

when you get fat necrosis, it can be

26:23

devastating. So- Is

26:26

that like when someone gets a

26:28

cyst? They can have a cyst

26:30

or the fat can die and

26:32

causes a local infection that then

26:34

causes a massive inflammatory response. You

26:36

get an indentation where that was

26:38

and you get hyperpigmentation. And

26:42

you can have a risk with filler as

26:44

well, but you can't talk about all

26:47

these complications and not have the

26:49

full conversation with people. And I

26:51

think that's my problem is let's

26:54

talk about complications from anything we

26:56

do, but it cannot

26:58

be, you cannot blame sculpture and filler

27:00

for your surgical complications and not go

27:02

back, like we said, to basics, which

27:05

is what we know that you can

27:07

have incisional complications. I had a surgical

27:09

complication that was not in an area

27:13

that I have anything in my face. And

27:16

it's just a known thing. I had

27:18

an incisional complication. It

27:20

took months to fix. Another

27:23

surgery, right? Another surgery, lots

27:26

and lots of steroid injections. And

27:28

listen, I take responsibility, right?

27:30

I had informed consent. I

27:33

was well aware of the complications,

27:35

but it had absolutely nothing

27:37

to do and not in an area where I

27:39

have even Botox. So

27:42

I think what happens is when

27:44

you start scaring people on social media about

27:46

if you get sculpture, you're never gonna be

27:48

able to get a facelift or if you

27:50

do, you're gonna have nerve damage. That's

27:53

not fair because then women don't know what to do.

27:56

And then they're terrified. And so they're

27:59

waiting. It's kind of like I always

28:01

use the analogies of like eggs are good eggs

28:03

are bad Remember like we would like eat half

28:05

an egg not the egg yolk only ate the

28:07

egg white now. We're back to eating eggs It's

28:10

like the same thing. It's like, okay, but then

28:12

what do you want women to do not to

28:14

do anything? Not everybody wants surgery

28:16

at any point in their life Not

28:19

everybody can afford surgery and

28:21

not every surgeon is talented Unfortunately,

28:24

you know like my husband's a

28:26

physician. He probably could have

28:28

become a plastic surgeon You don't

28:30

take a test on whether or not you're a

28:32

good artist to be a plastic surgeon. John can't

28:34

even see colors And

28:37

like he I mean like I wouldn't trust

28:39

him to do Botox in like a simple

28:41

area in my face and like but he

28:44

could Have legitimately become a plastic surgeon So

28:46

just because you do the training doesn't mean

28:48

that you're an artist So it goes back

28:50

to just because you can doesn't know he's

28:52

listening to this to you. Of course he

28:54

is Of

28:56

course, he is sorry John not a shout-out

28:59

he wanted no Even

29:02

like he'll do my PRP. I'm like, that's too deep that

29:04

you're hitting my phone God

29:08

Yeah, so like, you know, that's the thing and

29:10

and I think that what's happened is 10

29:13

years ago. There were no medspas. You

29:15

had to go to your dermatologist or plastic surgeon

29:18

to get your injectables and cosmetic

29:21

surgery or plastic surgery wasn't

29:24

It wasn't as common as it is now and

29:26

now they realize they can charge an

29:30

Extraordinarily amount of money for plastic

29:32

surgery, so they don't need to

29:34

be sitting behind a bed doing injectables They

29:37

can take that Friday off and go on their boat or

29:39

do whatever they want to do So

29:41

they're not doing injectables anymore

29:46

Sounded personal There's

29:50

a few people that that could apply to I

29:54

was thinking of a different person Everyone's

29:57

like what they're delulah So

30:00

because they're not doing them anymore and they

30:03

want to have the surgical business, this

30:05

is the angle that they're taking on social media is

30:08

surgery is the only answer. Billers

30:11

don't help you, they make things worse, they

30:13

make you look puffy, they make you look

30:15

old, sculpture is awful,

30:17

all of the things. And so I

30:19

think when you peel back the onion

30:21

and you see who is making those

30:23

statements and why they're making them, it'll

30:26

make a little bit more sense. And

30:28

the interesting thing is my office, we

30:30

get so tired of hearing about it

30:32

in the fear mongering, we called some

30:34

of these plastic surgeons office and they

30:36

actually offer filler, sculpture and threads in

30:38

their office. They have somebody else doing

30:40

it. So, you

30:43

know, it's- Consider the source. Consider

30:45

the source. And like, if there really

30:47

are things they're seeing during surgery, then let's

30:50

talk about it as colleagues

30:52

because I want to do

30:54

everything to set my patients up for success

30:56

in the future. I would never do something

30:58

that I thought was gonna cause them issues

31:00

down the road. And if I need to

31:02

rethink how I do things and let's talk

31:05

about it as a group, let's

31:07

not scare people on Instagram that if they

31:09

get one syringe of filler, they're gonna look

31:11

like that girl who had the car accident

31:13

yesterday. They're just not. And like, it's so

31:15

funny because like in my office, I see

31:17

everybody back in four weeks after we do

31:19

filler, everybody, unless they fly in to see

31:21

me, but then I'll see them virtually, but

31:23

we see everybody back. And when

31:26

they walk in, we're all at the front desk, going, oh

31:28

my God, you look amazing. Like you look so good. And

31:31

they really do. And

31:33

I think that that's the take home

31:35

message that find somebody who you like

31:37

the way their aesthetic looks. All

31:40

these before and afters on Instagram that

31:42

are wild, you don't want to see

31:44

that provider. The before and afters should

31:46

be subtle. They should not be something

31:48

that you're like, whoa, because that's not

31:51

gonna look good in real life. Find

31:53

a provider who has an aesthetic that you

31:55

like, work with them, small

31:58

baby steps over. give

32:00

you nice, good, long-lasting results.

32:03

But you have to be committed to do

32:06

all the things. You

32:08

can put a ton of filler in

32:10

your face. If you have bad skin, you're

32:12

still gonna look old. You

32:15

can have tons and tons of wrinkles

32:17

and want filler and it just doesn't look

32:20

right. So you get to a place where

32:22

you're over 30 and

32:25

you can't just do lip filler. You

32:27

need to be doing all the modalities.

32:29

You need to be doing skin. You

32:32

need to be thinking about lasers, maybe

32:34

a microneedling. You need to be sleeping,

32:36

eating well, maintaining your weight, all

32:38

of the things. And so it's

32:41

expensive and I get it, right? And it's

32:43

my job to make a year plan for

32:45

somebody and say, this is what a year

32:47

looks like. I need a year to get

32:49

you to where you wanna be. You don't

32:51

have to get all the syringes of filler

32:54

today, but I think that you need chin

32:56

and lips. And it's not my

32:59

job to turn people away if

33:01

I'm not gonna do them harm, if

33:03

they don't have the pocketbook to do it in

33:05

one day. Because I think that it's

33:08

my job because I know that I do

33:10

a good, safe job to meet

33:12

them where they are opposed to going, you

33:14

need to go somewhere that you can afford

33:16

and not meet. Now, if I'm

33:18

not gonna do harm and they came in for lip

33:20

filler, I think they need

33:22

added chin. We'll have that conversation. We'll put

33:24

it in the plan. If I can

33:26

safely do their lip filler that they're not gonna look

33:28

crazy, I'll do it. And then usually

33:31

the trust begins to build. You

33:34

build that relationship. You start

33:36

doing small tweaks over time.

33:39

And then you get a beautiful, natural,

33:41

long lasting result. And most of my

33:43

patients that see me are

33:45

on maintenance and they're

33:48

coming in every three months for Botox.

33:50

They do one or two skin treatments

33:52

a year. They're doing their at-home skin

33:54

routine, which is so important. They've adopted

33:56

some of the supplements that I think

33:58

are non-negotiable. with thion vitamin C, which

34:01

you know, they're staying out

34:03

of the sun, they're doing their best

34:05

to rest when they can, and they

34:07

look amazing. And most of them

34:09

have some sort of filler or sculpture in

34:11

their face if needed. And

34:14

when the time comes, and I

34:16

can no longer serve them with

34:18

my non-surgical devices or tools,

34:21

that's when we have the conversation

34:23

about surgery. And again, that is

34:25

a personal choice. Not everybody

34:27

wants to have surgery. There are people who

34:29

are adamantly against it. And

34:31

I still need to care for them

34:33

and support them and find creative things

34:35

to help them. And I think that

34:38

it's narrow-minded, and I think that it's

34:40

kind of short-sighted to be like, well, filler can't

34:42

help anybody. I can blend

34:44

filler to make it smooth in different areas.

34:46

There's all these things that we can do.

34:49

So I want people to kind of put that

34:51

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34:54

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41:36

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41:42

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41:45

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bouncier. So I wanna start

42:57

with saying that like, if you don't drink

43:00

a ton of water, don't beat yourself up.

43:02

It's not gonna make your skin hydrate. So

43:04

can I just say my boyfriend has the

43:06

best skin, so bouncy and so much like

43:08

collagen and elasticity. And every day I'm like,

43:11

did you drink water today? No. Right.

43:14

I'm like, what? Right.

43:16

Exactly. And what

43:18

man has a nine step skincare regime?

43:20

None. But that's different because men, they

43:23

age differently than we do. So we lose a lot of

43:25

bone. And so when we lose

43:27

bone, things start to shift. We also, our

43:29

skin is very sensitive to estrogen. And as

43:31

we age, we lose estrogen and our skin

43:33

becomes very dry. Do you like topical estrogen?

43:35

I was just gonna tell. I was gonna,

43:38

I wasn't sure if we were gonna get

43:40

to like, what my like top favorite new

43:42

things are. Yeah. Topical estrogen.

43:44

And it's honestly not new. I

43:46

saw a dermatologist years ago in

43:48

New York. I mean, I'm talking like 25 years ago. And

43:52

she was talking about it then. So it's

43:54

primrin. It's very, you know, very

43:56

simple to get a prescription for. Most insurances will pay

43:58

for it. don't coat it as

44:00

using it for your face. You just use it,

44:02

you know. You prescribe it? Yeah, I use it.

44:05

Yes, after that. I have a California

44:07

license, it's legal, so I won't write you for it.

44:10

I'm obsessed with it. So I think it

44:12

makes a big difference. Again, anything

44:15

with skincare, that's not a laser,

44:18

you have to give it three to six

44:20

months. That's the problem is people put on

44:22

their stuff and they're like, I don't look

44:24

any different. Well, you're not going to. It

44:26

takes a minute. We didn't get

44:28

to where we are overnight. We're

44:30

not going to reverse change or

44:32

optimize things overnight. Obsessed

44:35

with estrogen skincare cream. I

44:37

think that everyone can benefit.

44:40

You're not going to topically absorb

44:42

that amount to change anything within

44:44

your body hormonally. So

44:46

I think it's great. I think

44:49

exfoliation is so underrated and

44:51

so important. So I think

44:53

everybody should be doing some

44:55

sort of exfoliation. You've

44:58

got to renew that skin. You want

45:00

to get rid of those dead skin

45:02

cells. Everyone looks great when they're

45:04

glowing. So that can be a physical like

45:06

with a grain or it can be chemical

45:09

with one of the acids. I like to

45:11

use the acids because my skin is sensitive.

45:13

The grains, they're better now. They're not like

45:15

the apricot from like St. Ives. You know,

45:17

there's very small ones that are safe for

45:20

the skin. So I think everyone

45:22

should do some sort of exfoliation. Everybody

45:24

needs sunscreen. I know it's so

45:27

boring, but that's a pillar. Photo

45:29

aging is a real thing. Sun

45:31

spots are a real thing. And I tell

45:33

all my young patients, prevention

45:36

is always cheaper than correction.

45:38

I mean, you know. Yeah.

45:42

I always say my one regret in

45:44

life is my addiction to tanning and

45:46

tanning beds when I was younger. I

45:49

mean, thank God for lasers, but they're

45:51

so expensive. They're so expensive and it's

45:53

not a one and done. No. That's

45:56

the thing. It's like a yearly maintenance thing. Yes. I

45:59

always talk like they're like, oh. I'm like, one and done

46:01

is not gonna do it. And then, you know, a

46:03

lot of these like lower level like IPLs, they

46:05

don't really even work. So

46:07

sun damage is a real thing and

46:09

it's expensive to undo. So exfoliation, sunscreen,

46:11

a really good moisturizer. And I think

46:14

people get very confused and they're gonna

46:16

laugh, they hear me talk about in

46:18

the office all the times. There's different

46:20

particle sizes and people

46:22

love the way a thick moisturizer

46:25

feels. They obsessed with it, like

46:27

the Lameres or Nivias or things

46:29

of that nature. But those don't

46:32

penetrate the skin. They're not

46:34

gonna give you deep hydration. So

46:37

those are what I call like a

46:39

barrier cream. You can put that on

46:41

the end before you go to bed

46:43

to kind of lock everything in, but

46:45

you need a serum type smaller molecule

46:47

moisturizer to really absorb into the skin.

46:50

And then go hog wild if you

46:52

wanna put something thick on top to

46:54

feel good. But I always say

46:56

like those are your things that prevent wind

46:58

burn and tossing and turning at night from

47:00

maybe scraping your face, but like it's not

47:02

gonna give you that deep hydration. And

47:05

then the other thing that's simple and it's completely

47:07

free is sleeping on your back.

47:11

I know, I know you can't do it. I'm

47:13

the worst. I know. I'm the worst, but I

47:15

just tape my face now. That's like a big

47:17

thing. I have to say. You're

47:19

obsessed. I am obsessed. I tried

47:21

a lot of the different ones. I tried the

47:24

Frownies, it was awful. It was like paper mache

47:26

on my face. It's so hard to get off

47:28

in the morning. It's so uncomfortable. Sorry Frownies. I

47:30

didn't like it. I know a lot of people

47:32

do. It smells. I just, I was like, this

47:35

is not good. And

47:37

I'm like sacrificing skincare for

47:39

this past on my face. And

47:43

then I tried, I don't know, I tried

47:45

all of them. And then I found this

47:48

Japanese face tape from Natural Face

47:50

Bible, I think is her name. Yes. I

47:53

just learned about her like last week. I mean, I

47:55

have to say it is legit. I

47:58

mean, does it stop me from having. movement? No. But

48:00

I notice I don't have any static lines

48:03

to begin with because I did Botox for

48:05

so long. Right. Praise God. But I do

48:07

notice I sometimes wake up, whether it's from

48:09

sleeping on my face or on my side,

48:11

things move and squish. And I know that,

48:14

you know, people say that we move our

48:16

faces in our sleep without noticing

48:18

it. And so I just do

48:21

my forehead and like I wake up and

48:23

it's so smooth. You look amazing.

48:25

Last night I did my chest. You're gonna put

48:27

me out of business. You're like, I don't need

48:29

her Botox. Just gonna put some tape on. I

48:32

mean, it's totally different, right? It's totally different. It's

48:34

not preventing movement. There's nothing like Botox as of

48:36

right now that inhibits

48:38

the muscle from moving. But

48:40

I think it is a good option, especially

48:42

if people are like pregnant and they don't

48:44

want to have those lines forming. Because I

48:46

noticed that really, it's just in the morning

48:49

when I see like little kind of creases

48:51

and they kind of disappear over the day.

48:53

But when I use the tape, they don't.

48:55

And I think something that I know Donna

48:57

Omari, sadly passed away, but

48:59

she would do face tape. And she

49:01

talked about, you know, the circulation and

49:03

yeah, maybe it's legit or

49:05

not. But when you're talking about hydration and

49:07

you know, the blood vessels, I don't know

49:09

if you're taping something there. Her philosophy,

49:12

I think, was that it like drew blood

49:14

to the surface. So it helped with plumping.

49:16

Okay. You're like, Oh, I mean, I

49:18

have to, let me get back to you on

49:21

that. But I think it's a great option because

49:23

like sometimes people have like, you know, really hooded

49:25

eyes and I tell them like, Oh, I can't

49:27

Botox your forehead exactly how you want it. Cause

49:29

you're going to feel really heavy. That's a great

49:32

option for somebody who maybe Botox in the forehead

49:34

isn't a great idea for anymore. But yeah, I

49:36

think all of that stuff is great. And sleeping

49:38

on your back is hard. Like I, my poor

49:41

husband, he must look at me and be like,

49:43

she was like a Frankenstein tonight.

49:45

Like I have the eye mask, which

49:47

I now don't know how I got

49:49

to be my age and didn't know.

49:51

Like a silk one. Yeah. Same game

49:53

changer. Literally. Like I'm almost angry that

49:55

I didn't know about it before. It's

49:58

like my sleep. Sleep

50:00

has changed. So like I'm on my back,

50:02

right? I have all the skincare on. Now

50:04

I'm sleeping in this Biodance mask, which is

50:06

like $5 on Amazon. It's

50:09

a collagen mask and I swear. Oh

50:11

yeah, I love that. They're amazing,

50:13

but it's way, it's like I have a hockey

50:15

mask on. Then I have my black, silk

50:17

mask. And

50:21

I'm like this, I'm not gonna move it. It's

50:23

what I do. And I think it does

50:25

help. I mean, for sure. Patients that sleep

50:27

on their side, they come in, they've got

50:30

a line there. You can get lines on

50:32

your chest too. So that's a free thing

50:34

that everybody can kind of do. Like find

50:36

some pillows, do the things, prop yourself up.

50:38

I don't know if it's only because what

50:41

I went through in the past year

50:43

where now I feel like social media,

50:45

whether it's TikTok, Instagram, they're feeding me

50:47

this content about more natural approaches to

50:49

things. But it does seem like there

50:52

is this movement, I think, away

50:56

from obviously the unnatural, completely

50:58

frozen look, the overfilled. But

51:01

also I think people are being a little

51:03

more skeptical and a little more cognizant about

51:05

the things that they are both

51:07

putting into their body, using on

51:09

their skin topically. So

51:11

I think that we're seeing a lot more of

51:14

these kind of quote unquote hacks, whether

51:16

it's the silk eye mask, the bio

51:18

dance thing, the collagen mask, the face

51:20

tape. And I think it's interesting

51:23

to hear from you because you do the

51:25

other things as well, but you can do

51:27

all of it. It can all work in

51:29

concert. Yes, I wanna do all of it.

51:32

Like if I'm like, I'm gonna get

51:34

that tape tonight. I have so

51:36

many roles I'll give them to you. You'll love it.

51:38

I'm just gonna be like, what now? And that's what

51:40

I was saying is that like, you

51:43

can't think that you're gonna walk into my office, get

51:45

10 units of Botox

51:48

and walk out and look like Kim Kardashian.

51:50

You're not going to. I

51:52

do all the things and

51:54

you have to do, as you age,

51:56

you're gonna have to do more and

51:58

more. If you want. to

52:01

retain some of that youthful stuff. I

52:03

take all the supplements, I do all

52:05

of the skin care, I sleep in the eye masks,

52:07

I do all the things. And so I think that

52:10

that's good. And I think that being aware of

52:12

what we're putting into our bodies is important. I think

52:15

it's super important. I think whether that's going back to

52:17

more whole foods or deciding that you're like, I had

52:19

a patient the other day that told me that she

52:21

was going to get Botox every month.

52:24

And I was like, I rarely

52:27

ever, I pride myself

52:29

on never telling a patient

52:31

that they've had something done wrong or the

52:33

technique. I try

52:35

to just say, well, I just do it differently.

52:37

But in that sense, that's actually wrong. That's

52:41

not how you practice. You don't get Botox every

52:43

month. And going

52:45

through that with you, I don't wanna get emotional,

52:47

but going through that with you, it

52:50

changed the way that I think

52:52

about things. And I remember

52:54

being here kind of

52:57

right when it happened. And I was

52:59

thinking about that this morning. I remember vividly being in

53:01

Montauk, being on the phone

53:03

with you and the neurologist. And I remember

53:05

getting off the phone and being so angry

53:09

because listen, I'm well aware of the gas

53:11

volume that happens in medicine. It happened to

53:13

me. I hear it in my office.

53:17

But to think that it's still going on is

53:20

upsetting. And I know

53:22

everyone knows what all went on, but I

53:24

had a real front seat to it. And

53:26

it's something that I do for a living.

53:29

And this

53:31

is where we have to get

53:33

away from only looking at studies

53:36

and saying, well, there's no studies that show

53:38

that that happens. That's not what happened to

53:41

you. And it did

53:44

happen to you. And I know

53:46

you so well, and I watched

53:49

it, and I lived with you going

53:51

through it. It doesn't matter if there

53:53

are studies. And the fact that

53:55

nobody said to you, I don't know.

53:59

They all came up. with these things, right? We

54:01

went through all these things instead of

54:03

saying, I don't really know, you know

54:06

what it sounds like. The

54:08

most logical thing is what you're telling

54:10

me, the timing of when it happened,

54:12

how you feel. I don't

54:16

have a study to prove that, but I

54:18

see you as a person, and I see

54:20

you and I hear you, and it coincides

54:22

to when you were treated. And listen,

54:26

we don't know exactly why that happened, right?

54:28

And then all this stuff has come out

54:30

about counterfeit Botox. So

54:33

who knows, right? I

54:36

take trust in that

54:38

the shipment that comes to my office

54:40

from the company that I buy it

54:42

from, which I only buy from the

54:45

company themselves that makes Botox or Sportj Voe,

54:47

I reconstitute my product myself

54:49

in my office. But

54:52

not every office runs that way. So you know,

54:54

you never know, but the fact that nobody

54:56

said to you, I don't know,

54:58

instead of making up all of

55:00

these things, right? And

55:03

I think that you're a real lesson in

55:05

everybody's body responds differently. And just

55:07

because something you were able to

55:10

do for so many years, doesn't

55:12

mean that you may or may

55:14

not have a reaction. I've had

55:16

tons of cosmetic surgery. I happened

55:19

to have a complication this last

55:21

time. It can happen. And

55:23

I think that we need to really open

55:27

our eyes as providers and really

55:30

listen. And I

55:33

remember feeling so helpless at

55:35

the time and being like, this is what

55:37

you do for a living, why can't you

55:39

help her? But I remember being the only

55:41

thing I could offer you was support and

55:43

love and not try to make

55:45

up what I thought it was. And I

55:47

don't know if I

55:49

did a good job in that time. But

55:52

I remember just

55:54

I remember thinking, God, you know, I do this all

55:57

day. Am I am I doing the right thing, you

55:59

know, for a living? for my patients, but

56:01

I definitely have conversations with them now that

56:03

I didn't have thanks to you. And

56:06

I think informed consent is

56:08

so important. And I heard you talking

56:10

on your last solo about like feeling

56:12

guilty about you had done this to

56:15

yourself. And I think as women, we

56:17

do that, whether it's breast implants or

56:19

the, you know, the complication that

56:21

I had, or, you know, if you get

56:24

a bad outcome from your Botox and your

56:26

browser flat, we do tend to blame ourselves.

56:29

There's nothing wrong with wanting

56:31

to enhance yourself or preserve

56:33

yourself. And I think we

56:35

need to support each other

56:37

when complications happen and normalize

56:39

them and say, okay,

56:42

if your brows have dropped, it's Botox. It's gonna wear

56:44

off in three months, or you're gonna be okay. If

56:47

you happen to get breast implant illness disease,

56:49

it's not your fault. It's okay. We're

56:52

now having conversations. And thank God there's

56:54

great doctors like Dr. Cohen who took

56:56

care of you who said, we don't

56:58

know exactly, but let's see how things

57:00

go. Let's see how you feel. Yeah,

57:02

he was like, let's remove one variable

57:05

so that we can get to the root of

57:07

what is actually happening. Exactly. And I

57:09

think that that's what we need to do

57:11

is support each other as women and just

57:14

as people when we have complications and

57:17

take that guilt away from people.

57:19

And I think that it's just what we do. We're like,

57:21

oh, should I just left things alone? And a lot of

57:23

spouses will tell their wives, oh, she's, why did you do

57:25

that? You know, and you shouldn't

57:28

play with fire. There is

57:30

a time when I'll tell my patients, like you look so

57:32

good. The only thing that can happen is

57:34

a complication. That one millimeter that I can

57:37

get you more filler isn't worth it, right?

57:39

That's what Ben says too. He's like, I

57:41

can only make it worse. Right.

57:44

And I think that's where we're having these conversations,

57:46

that's where these conversations are going with a little

57:48

bit more awareness, a little bit more natural of

57:51

like, you know what? Sometimes good is good enough.

57:54

And I think that's where the value into

57:56

picking your team is that they're going to

57:58

say, you know what? Sometimes good

58:00

is good enough. And the only thing that could

58:03

happen is a complication. So let's let it be.

58:06

Well, thank you for that. Maybe we'll get

58:08

into some of that a little bit more

58:10

on the episode we're about to record, which

58:12

is you interviewing me. But

58:15

yeah, you did have a front row seat to

58:17

that. And not to get

58:19

too much into it, because I know we're

58:21

almost out of time, but you were really

58:23

the only support that I had. And I

58:25

mean, I went to like 10 different doctors

58:27

and it was so traumatic. I remember being

58:29

at that neurologist when you were on the

58:31

phone and you were like, should we check

58:33

the lot number? Like no

58:37

physician, except for you really

58:39

acknowledged that it could have been that when it was

58:41

like the day that I got

58:43

injections and the next day is when

58:45

it started. Like, hello, Occam's razor. Right,

58:47

right. But that's a conversation for a

58:50

different time, but yeah. And as far

58:52

as the complications go, I think that

58:54

there's a lot of shaming ourselves and

58:57

then judging other women. So I think

58:59

that a note to end on is

59:01

also just stop judging each other because

59:03

I just did a

59:05

video on TikTok recently about like, oh, what

59:08

are we doing? That's not Botox. And everyone's

59:10

like aging gracefully. And I'm like, what is

59:12

even graceful aging? And it's only coming from

59:14

women, you know? And judgment

59:17

and to your point, like we can

59:19

want to preserve, we can want to

59:21

maintain whatever one person chooses to do.

59:24

It doesn't have to be what you

59:26

choose to do, but like, let's all

59:28

allow some space for everybody to

59:31

be on their own journey with that. Yes,

59:33

and it's so funny that a lot of

59:35

it comes from women. And last time I

59:37

was here, I was in Air One and

59:39

Kristen Caballari was there with her new hot,

59:41

19 year old boyfriend. And I

59:43

was like, oh, I mean,

59:45

I was so happy for her. I was

59:47

like- She got so dragged. And all of

59:49

the comments were from women. They were like,

59:52

what about your kids? I'm like, what about

59:54

her kid? Like, I remember seeing her. The

59:56

only thing I thought was like, damn. Like,

59:58

it's all right. It's

1:00:00

always women. It's always women. So all

1:00:02

the vitriol, all the hate, everything, it's

1:00:04

from women. And that comes from doing

1:00:07

what I do. And I see that comes from

1:00:09

a deep place of insecurity, right? And

1:00:12

sometimes people wanting to have the courage to do

1:00:14

what you and I might do and talk about,

1:00:16

but they don't have it. And so a lot

1:00:18

of that comes from fear, a lot

1:00:21

of that comes from jealousy, a

1:00:23

lot of that comes from anger

1:00:25

within of not being who they

1:00:28

authentically want to be. Maybe

1:00:30

their husband doesn't agree with it and they don't have the strength

1:00:32

to say, hey, I'm going to do it anyways. So

1:00:35

happy women don't do that. And

1:00:38

so that I'm going to say, and

1:00:40

I cannot wait for the interview on

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