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25 seasons, 4,561 episodes, I
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believe The Oprah Winfrey Show was one of the
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greatest classrooms in the world. I really never
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thought of it that way. The aha
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to know, do you see me? Do
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you hear me? Does what I
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say mean anything to you? You
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are listening to The Oprah Winfrey
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Show, the podcast. I'm
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back from spring vacation while I was... I
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understand there are quite a few headlines that we're going to
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be talking about. Later, we'll have some
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fun answering your letters. My break started with
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a trip to one of the most fantastic
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spas ever, the Miraval Spa in Arizona. If
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you ever get a chance in life, that's
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where you want to go. Gayle
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and I were there on another adventure
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with ten women who
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won our oprah.com contest and 50 women
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who won our O Magazine contest. Take
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a look at one of the funniest
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moments. It happened because the Miraval Spa
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is about challenging your life, it's about
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getting healthy, and this happened on a
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challenge exercise called a swing and a
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prayer. They attach you to a cable
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and then they pull you up 40
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feet in the air, and then
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it's up to you to decide when to let go,
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and you swing like a pendulum
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back and forth. And Gayle, when
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I was going up, she was like, when I
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got up there, I was asking questions. She said, why don't you ask
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her questions before you go up? And then when she got up there,
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I almost had a nervous breakdown. Take a look. There
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you go, Mommy. Oh,
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they are not exaggerating about, oh, God.
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So just keep breathing. All right. I just said to
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you, you're going to get on there and it's actually
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going to hurt your crotch. Didn't
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want to hear you complaining about your bajayjay. Wait.
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Take that deep breath.
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Okay. Let
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go. Gayle, on the count
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of three, you want to let go? My
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mouth is very dry.
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It's going to feel
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like a roller coaster.
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That's all. I hate
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roller coasters. Okay. When
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are you going to let go? I don't know. I'm
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not kidding. I
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don't know if I can do it. Yes, you can.
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Yes, you can. I
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understand right there in the room with you. Ashton? Oh
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my god! Ashton?
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Ashton, can you read the email that you sent to
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me? Dear
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Oprah, my name is Ashton Bell, and I'm
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a ninth grade student in Mesquite, Texas. My
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Honors World Geography teacher, Miss Adeni, is absolutely
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in love with you. She
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has a special chair in her room reserved for
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you. No person has ever sat
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in or even breathed on that chair and lived.
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It is Miss Adeni's dream for you to visit
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our classroom one day. Geography is
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not my favorite subject, but Miss Adeni makes learning
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so much fun. I love my class now. She
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is such a fun teacher with great ideas. I
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would love for you to meet her, even if
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it's for a single moment. Thank you very much,
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Ashton Bell. Gosh, thank you. Wow.
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This is what somebody told me, that you have
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the chair in your class,
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and it's been sitting there how long? It
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has been here for six years, and no one
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has dared to sit in it or move it.
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move it that I know of.
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And then what happened? You came in this morning,
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Ann? And it was gone.
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And I almost passed out, but. What
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did you think? What did you think happened to it? I
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had no idea what happened to it. And
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somebody told me that you were a little
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upset that that chair is missing. I
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was definitely upset that it was missing, because no
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one has touched that chair. All these students know
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at the beginning of the year, I set the
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tone that the chair is not to be touched.
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And they all doubted me that you were never
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going to sit in it. So
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this is unreal. This
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is what happened. Last night, last night, the
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principal of your school, the principal
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of your school, packed up the chair, and
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she sent the chair here. So
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here we go. The chair is
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here. This is the chair. This
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is the chair. And
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now I'm going to sit in it. Yes.
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Oh my goodness. OK.
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And I understand that you had said. You
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all doubted me. You all
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doubted it. I understand that you had
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said that whoever could get me to
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sit in the chair would be able to get in a chair. Breathe,
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just keep breathing. Would be
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able to get an A, correct? That
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is correct. But she earns an A anyway, but
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she will have it. OK. So
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you're going to sit in it. You're going to sit in it. You're
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going to sit in it. I'm going
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to sit in it. Well,
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I am really just so pleased that you would have
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this chair for me. I've never heard of this before.
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That there is a chair for
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six years sitting in the class. Why did you
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have the chair? Because you wanted me to come
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to the class? Yes. Well,
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OK, I have been a fan of yours forever.
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And so I wanted to give my
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room a theme. And so the theme is Oprah's
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loft. And so we couldn't have Oprah's loft unless
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we had an Oprah chair for you
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to sit in. My dream
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was that one day I would be standing here. kind
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of like I am now teaching. Yeah.
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And you would walk through the door and
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you would sit in the chair. And I
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don't know after that. Well,
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here's the next best thing. Because you have reserved
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this chair for me all of these years, I'm
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now going to reserve two seats for
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you. It says Mrs. Adini's chair. Please
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do not sit. Right
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here. This
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is Adini's chair. So
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please tell us when you want to come to
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The Oprah Show. And I'll have a special seat
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reserved right here in the front just for you.
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And please come soon so we can have this
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seat. OK,
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I'll see you tomorrow. So that we can use the seat.
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So let me know. Let me know. My staff is going
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to call you and take care of it. They'll be on
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the phone with you later today. And bring Ashton with you,
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OK? OK. Thank
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you. Thank you both. Fantastic.
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Oh my goodness. I cannot believe
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this. You cannot believe this. You
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are an angel. Thank you. Oh, thank you. Thank you. We'll
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see you soon. We'll see you soon in your chair. So
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thank you so much. After
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Gail and I hit the road last summer, we got a
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lot of emails about that trip. This one caught our eye.
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Were we wrong? This is the question. I
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have been a secretary all my adult
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life. And you people are driving me
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nuts. Oprah and Gail's big adventure. Everyone
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who has an ounce of grammar in them knows
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it's Oprah's and Gail's big
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adventure. Not Oprah and
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Gail's big adventure. Everything
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I read, you leave off the possessive
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on Oprah's name. And it is grammatically
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incorrect. It is so tacky. What if
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Gail wasn't in the picture? Would you
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say Oprah big adventure? No. It
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would be Oprah's big adventure. So
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it should say Oprah's and Gail's
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big adventure in everything. It
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is my pet peeve in life. Please
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correct it. Thank you, Krista Hintze. All
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right. OK. I'm
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so sorry. OK. I
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understand that. So, Tricia, I understand you
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told our producers that you are absolutely
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certain that you're right. Oh, I'm positive.
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You're positive. Positive. That you're right. Is
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she right, audience? She
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is right. Who says she's not right?
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Everybody says you're right. It has to, if
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it can't stand alone, then it
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would, I mean, it has to
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stand alone. It has to have a posture. That's right.
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It should be Oprah's and Gail's. OK.
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OK. OK. Stand up for
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what you believe in, people. Tricia doesn't know this,
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but we called in the big grammar. So when
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I read that, I thought, oh, yeah, she's right.
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She's right. OK. We called in
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the big grammar guns to get to the
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bottom of this. OK? Who
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knew you could take a dangling
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participle, mix it with a prepositional
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phrase, and become an instant internet
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sensation? Before Min-Yong Fogarty made
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it big on the web, she worked
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as a professional technical writer. The
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same repeated grammatical mistakes began to
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drive her over the edge. So
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she married her love of language to
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her editing expertise, and Grammar
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Girl was born. Nearly
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4 million fans have downloaded
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her five-minute language lessons. Grammar Girl
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here. Shows range
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from the electrifying, proper use
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of the passive voice to
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the mysterious when-to-use semicolons. OK.
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Min-Yong Fogarty, AKA Grammar Girl, is
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here. It's the moment of truth
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of sorts. Our audience, as you just
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said, agrees with her. They think that
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we were wrong. Actually, when I read that email, I
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said, oh, yeah, she's right. We're wrong. Were
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we wrong? No. Actually, you were right.
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I'm so sorry. OK.
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How are you right? The rule is
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called compound possession. And
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if people share something. OK, let's
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look. Compound possession. I vaguely remember
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hearing about this. In what,
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seventh grade, eighth grade? Yeah. OK, if
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people share something, then they can share
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the apostrophe S. So it's Oprah and
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Gail's car. If they go on the
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same road trip, they
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show the same car and they show the same apostrophe
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S. Now, it would be
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two apostrophe S's if you were
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doing something different. So if you
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had talked about Oprah's boat and
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Gail's adventure. Exactly. Oprah's something and
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Gail's not I. Right. But if
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it's a compound possession because
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we shared the same thing. Right,
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you have it together. Compound possession.
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Yeah. That's exciting. I
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thought you were right. I thought
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you were right. I stand corrected.
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OK, compound possession. OK, Mignon
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is going to set us straight on some
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of the most common grammar mistakes that drive
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her nuts, her pet peeves also. She's clever
22:48
ideas to help even the most grammatically challenged
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remember their rules. So what's the first one?
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The first one is effect with an A
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versus effect with an E. I just made
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a mistake on an email the other day
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and I was writing my principles. I know
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I think she's going to think I'm an
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idiot now. I doubt that. OK,
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so she's going to think, boy, she doesn't know
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whether they use effect or effect. Does anybody know
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when you use it? A
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fact, AFF, ECT, or effect. Do you
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know? Who knows? OK.
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Yes. I think effect is a
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verb and effect is a noun. Yes. Yeah,
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I figured that out after I got that one. OK, how
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do we do it? So to use
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them in a sentence, for example, effect with an
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A is a verb. That's an action thing. Remember
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on your road trip, Gail singing affected you. That
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was a verb. And the
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effect wasn't pretty. Wasn't
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pretty. Wasn't pretty. You're
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correct. So it affected me
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because it was a verb. Right. A,
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and the effect that it had on me,
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the noun, wasn't pretty. OK,
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so you can remember that this is
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easier. OK, there's a mnemonic. The
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raven flew down the avenue. So
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the words raven and avenue, both.
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have the letters A, V, E,
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N in them. That helps you
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remember affect, verb, effect, noun. A,
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V, E, N. What'd
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you just say? A,
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V, E, N.
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The raven flew down the avenue.
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Oh, got it. Got it. OK.
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That's good. The raven flew down
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the avenue. This is a really
24:24
common one. When to use who
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and whom. Here's an example sentence.
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We say, whom do we need to thank? We
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need to thank him. Yes, and it ends
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with an M, and whom ends with an
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M. And so that's very easy to remember.
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If you can answer with him, you use
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whom. OK, so whom do we need to
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thank? Oh, we thanked whom means we would
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thank him. Right. And
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they both end with an M. So if you
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can answer with him, you use whom. If you
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could answer with he. He or her. Then you
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would use who. So for example, if you said,
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who is on the show next? The
24:58
answer would be he is on the show
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next. So then there's no
25:03
not him, no M. So you know to
25:05
use who. Drop the M. There's an M,
25:07
it's whom. The answer to the
25:09
question is an M, then it's whom. Right.
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OK, what about lay versus lie? How do
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you know that? You do, OK, good. Lie.
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People lie. Exactly,
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you have the best audience. They're
25:22
smart and pretty. So
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go lay down. When people say go lay
25:30
down, it's wrong. It's wrong. So go lay
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down is wrong. Right, yes,
25:34
it's wrong. So it should be go lie
25:36
down. OK, people lie. To
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lie means to recline. Yes, things lay.
25:41
Objects lay. I
25:43
lay the book on the table. OK, but now I lay me
25:45
down to sleep. I pray the Lord my soul to keep. I
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know. Now I lay me down to sleep.
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People are confused because you're laying yourself down.
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So you're the object of your own sentence.
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Now I lay me down. If
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I said now I lay down to sleep, I'm wrong.
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Right. Now I lay down. the prayer's better. I lie
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down. Oh, you lay me down. So if I
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go to Grammar Girl and I have an issue,
26:05
like, when to use a semicolon, because
26:07
I just really, that just throws me completely. Yeah, I know. quickanddirtytips.com,
26:10
or you can Google search for Grammar Girl. Okay, wonderful.
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Yeah. Wonderful. Pleasure. Thank
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you. Thanks for spreading the
26:18
word. Compound possession. Compound possession.
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I love reading your e-mails.
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And so we're getting caught up with some of our mail today, answering
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some of your questions and taking requests. I've got
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to kick out of this next letter. Dear
26:32
Oprah, six of us college pals have been friends for
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30 years. We call ourselves The Club.
26:37
We have an unbreakable bond. Oprah, over
26:39
the years, you have become a part of our lives.
26:41
So when we all turned 50, we decided
26:43
to take you with us on our big trip to
26:45
Italy. From the Vatican in Rome to a gondola ride
26:47
in Venice to sipping wine in Florence, you were with
26:49
us every step of the way. Not
26:52
even these pigeons could slow you down. And
26:54
your presence helped us get better service with
26:56
the cute Italian waiters. One of our life goals has
26:59
been for the six of us to go to Chicago
27:01
to see your show. Oh,
27:05
yay! And there you all six are.
27:09
Well, you know, I've been wanting to go to
27:11
Italy, so maybe this was the law of
27:13
attraction working for me. Yes, yes. Wanting
27:16
to go to Italy. What made you decide to take me along?
27:19
Whose idea was it? Harriet's. Harriet's?
27:21
What made you decide to take
27:23
me along? Take me along. We'll
27:26
go back with you if you want. It's
27:28
the best country to visit. We had a wonderful
27:30
time. We wanted to come and see the show.
27:33
We're from San Diego. We wanted to come and
27:35
see the show. But you can only get four
27:37
tickets, and there's six of us. Oh. And,
27:40
yeah. You wouldn't go without each other.
27:42
No, and so when we went
27:44
to Italy, we decided, what the heck. Take
27:46
Oprah. Take Oprah. She'll see how much you
27:49
love. And we could get
27:51
six tickets. That was the whole thing. Well, it
27:53
worked. It worked, yeah. It worked indeed.
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Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank
27:58
you. Thank you. Taking
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me along is like when Gail and I did the
28:03
road trip, one of the cameramen for his third
28:05
grade daughter, we took along Flat
28:07
Stanley. Yeah. We took Flat Stanley.
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So I was like, Flat Oprah.
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Thank you. I'm glad you finally made it to the show. It's
28:15
great. We got this email from Pat
28:18
Hines in Georgia who said, Oprah, I
28:20
once heard you say on the air that you didn't know
28:22
another person named Oprah Winfrey. Well, there
28:24
is a 12-year-old girl whose name is Oprah Winfrey. And
28:27
I thought, Oprah and Winfrey? And
28:30
she said, I thought you'd find it interesting that you
28:32
have a namesake. So we found little Oprah and flew
28:34
her here to Chicago, because I've never met another one.
28:36
Please welcome Oprah Winfrey.
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Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.
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Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.
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Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Hi.
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Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi.
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Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi.
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Hi. You're the first one
28:53
I've ever met. Hi, man. Hi. So
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your whole name is Oprah Winfrey? My whole name.
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So when people call you, they go Oprah
29:00
Winfrey? Oprah Winfrey. Oprah's
29:03
mom, Linda Winfrey, is here. Linda,
29:05
why did you name her Oprah? Well,
29:07
when my husband found out we was
29:09
having a girl, she was like, we
29:11
got to name her Oprah after somebody
29:14
that's positive. That will be a great
29:16
role model. I'm like, that's
29:18
it, Oprah Winfrey. That's a
29:20
tough name, though, when you're
29:22
little. So when you were like,
29:24
you know, I had trouble with the
29:28
name. I like my name now. But when I was
29:30
like in the third grade, I did not like my
29:32
name. So how did you feel about it? How do
29:34
you feel about your name? I like my name because
29:36
you're a great role model, and I want to be
29:39
like you. So I like my name a lot. You
29:41
do like your name. Have you always liked your name?
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Always. You have. And
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I hear you love school. I love school. Yeah.
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You're moving in the right direction. Yeah.
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You're moving in the right direction. Thank you so
29:51
much. Linda and
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Oprah. Oprah, Oprah.
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So I want to say to all of my guests, thank
30:02
you for all the emails, and keep them coming. Somebody reads
30:04
them, and then they get them to me. Oprah,
30:06
Oprah, can you read that right there? Thank
30:09
you for all the emails, and keep them
30:11
coming. Goodbye. Good. That's going to be good. That's
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good. That's good.
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I'm Oprah Winfrey, and you've been listening to
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