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We can all

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say that there was one point that we were a bit lucky.

1:24

My luck, for example, was to find Arsene Wenger. And

1:27

then when you just talk to Dave off air,

1:29

he'll just say, it's a disgrace, this is Man

1:31

United we're talking about. I copied this haircut. It

1:33

was obviously not quite the same. I

1:37

know it didn't come out, you know, the

1:39

same, but it was Fernando Torres. Hello, welcome

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to the Planet Premier League podcast. I'm

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Mark Chapman. Lots to talk about on today's

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podcast. We'll

1:49

get Cesc's thoughts on Karl Palmer after his four

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goals for Chelsea on Sunday. I

36:00

know United won the last FA Cup, but the one before,

36:02

the goal for Milcai Gundo, and after however many seconds, is

36:05

a long ball that gets up. I think

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De Bruyne can test ahead with someone and Gundo just

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whacks it in. And that's probably City's best

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ever team scoring a goal, which would probably be drawn up

36:13

30 years ago by a team who

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maybe people wouldn't want to cover. You

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do know, Nadim, that the ball going out for

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a throw-in or contested in a free kick was

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basically my pub career for 25 years,

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don't you? That's virtually all that

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happened. Wow, listen, it's a

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form of football and it leads the goals. It certainly

36:31

can work. It certainly can work. Before

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we go and say our emotional

36:36

goodbyes at the end of this

36:38

podcast, and Dave makes one last

36:40

desperate attempt to get the ball.

36:44

The late game on Sunday, so he's taught

36:46

them go to Brighton. Is

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there every chance that this ends seven

36:51

all, Nadim? I

36:53

do know, I really hope it does. Maybe

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producer Joe wouldn't want that. But yeah,

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the lines that the Sadie's two teams

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play are, you could say on

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the aggressive side, but then I overall, even

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though I was a defender, I don't mind

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it because it's for a reason. I

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think it allows the team to be able to apply

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more pressure further up the field. And

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when you can have those turnovers, it's a great potential

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to score more goals because the goal is just there.

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So yes, I think it will be hectic. But

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then also they have goalkeepers who are prepared to come off their

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line. And this is the way

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that, say, modern football is kind of going with some

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teams. And I'm here for it because some people say,

37:30

oh, you're not being entertained enough. And

37:32

then when they get entertained, it's like I'm entertained a bit

37:34

too much. Please just just park the bus and keep it

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there. And neither of them are

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going to change, says God. No,

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I don't think so. I don't think so. I mean,

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I am a fan of high lines, 100 percent,

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but I'm not a big fan when the

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ball is not covered to just

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not drop. I'm sorry for

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me. Yes, some teams

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will not have the capacity to

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understand it, but once they catch

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you understand your game,

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I think you will have a lot of

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problems, especially against the big teams. I see

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Barcelona, for example, now as well, they're doing

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the same exact thing. And

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when it's not your day, you

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could get smashed for two,

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like it happened, you know, the

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last weekend. So listen,

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every coach has their own ideas, philosophy, style

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of play, call it whatever you want. And

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if the players understand it, then the players are... Your

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point there, sorry, is exactly what Herzler has said a

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little bit, which is it's not

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just about the defenders with

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this highlight. The rest of the team have

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got to put pressure on the ball. And

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that's as much the issue Tottenham got done

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at Newcastle in a very similar way, played

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a high line, but there was no pressure

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on the ball for the ball

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to be played over the top of the... Why

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do you want a high line if you are

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not pressuring the ball? This is what I meant

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before. The high line is to be able to

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put pressure and to stay in their pitch as

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much as possible. But obviously, if someone is running

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at you and you are not running back, you

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only need the good timing of the striker and the

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good timing of the little pass, the chip behind

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your back line and the guy will be

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one-on-one against your goalkeeper. This is

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why, you know, where is

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the balance? You know, I

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like to have a mixed, you know, in this

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case, I like to work it well. I like

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to be sure that the players understand each phase

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when the ball is covered, when the ball is

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going backwards, when the ball is uncovered, when someone

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is running at you, you need to drop off

39:30

in my opinion. David, I saw a graphic

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of somebody looking forward

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to this game with average team positions, which

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had both goalkeepers in their

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own penalty areas and then the other

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20 players in the middle

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of the pitch, either side of the halfway line,

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no deeper than the centre circle on both sides.

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Yeah, I think it's going to be like that.

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When you're looking at the high lines in the

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Premier League, Man City have got the highest line,

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obviously dominate possession, the opponent's half at 53 metres

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from their goal and then Brighton's 51

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metres. and Spurs is 50 metres,

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obviously 1, 2, 3 in the Premier League.

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But if you're looking at the amount

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of expected goals that those teams have

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contested, conceded and created this season, they're

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both around 19. So we're probably

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going to get a very good game of football.

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Dave, sorry, just one question. When you

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say the highest line, you mean in general when

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they have the ball and where they don't have

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the ball or just high line when they don't

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have the ball? I

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think this is calculated with when you're defending.

40:29

Hang on, hang on. Dave, this could

40:31

be your job interview here. He's asked

40:33

you a direct question on the tactic.

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I'm just curious. I saw it's just

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for... Yeah, but he needs the numbers

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here, Cesc. He's rattled. He doesn't know.

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He doesn't know. He's quickly Googling. I

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think it's... This, I

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believe, is both phases, I imagine. Yeah, overall.

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It's also got the opposition's defensive line as

40:52

well when you're playing against them. No,

40:54

I'm not. Chappers, he's exposed himself

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there. You know what I

40:59

mean? Like he's dropped the date and it says, I think it's

41:01

this. I'm sure. I use

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the word, I think. No, I am sure it's that.

41:06

Yeah. Big opportunity. That Hogan

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goal was there. Fumbled it on the one yard line.

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You know what I mean? Last shot for Cesc as

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well. You're fourth down here, guys.

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Got to make a play. A reminder that you

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I think we can all say that we've loved

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having you with us and

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the insight and the fun as well.

41:38

And that we just wish you all the

41:40

very best for the rest of this season

41:42

and beyond with Como. Thank

41:44

you so much, guys. As I said,

41:46

it's been a pleasure. I

41:49

met new people

41:51

like you, new great guys, new friends.

41:53

Basically, we still keep

41:56

the group chat. I hope, you know, we

41:58

can debate some football. We can. and

42:00

they can have their little questions,

42:03

these little slats that I love.

42:05

Mark, you should sometimes

42:08

get in the audience. If you

42:10

don't mind, we'd appreciate that. Get

42:12

into the mix. Yeah, that's

42:14

all we need, Ses. But no, right,

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thank you so much, really. I was partly hoping,

42:18

Ses, you say, I'll now leave the WhatsApp group,

42:20

I was thinking, brilliant. That gives me an excuse

42:22

to get a wizard on my way. No

42:25

chubs. No chubs. But

42:28

no, seriously, honestly, it's been great.

42:31

And we would love to have you back on

42:33

from time to time. That

42:36

would be really important. So that's

42:38

it from this

42:40

week. Naidum, Dave, I'll see you next

42:42

week. Ses, we wish you all the

42:44

very best. And a reminder that you

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until next time, this has been an

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43:00

do I send a message to this WhatsApp group? Ah,

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shut up, Chappas. Yeah, go

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to watch, Chappas. Just take it off mute first and then

43:08

it'll work from there. Love

43:10

this. Oh, dear. Love this.

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