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on Bearbrook Season 2, a

1:00

true crime story. My

1:04

main goal is to raise the

1:06

concerns around this conviction to

1:09

the extent that it would encourage the state

1:11

to revisit the evidence. The

1:13

clerk who I know came over to chat with

1:15

me and she said that

1:18

she had been listening to Undisclosed.

1:21

She's like, you know what? There's a

1:23

big box in our basement with Jason

1:25

Carroll's name on it. Hey,

1:30

the fucking nail clippings are here. The

1:33

nail clippings are here. The

1:36

answer to who killed Sharon Johnson is very likely

1:38

in that envelope right there. It is possible that

1:40

the answer to who killed Sharon Johnson is in

1:43

this envelope in front of us. It's

1:51

been about 17 months since that day with

1:54

the box. The Box

1:56

of evidence from the investigation into Sharon

1:58

Johnson's murder. The.

2:00

Box had the clothes sharing was wearing when

2:02

she died. A nice police say

2:04

she was stabbed with. The. Fingernail

2:07

clippings from Sharon's hands with blood on

2:09

them. Blood. That might belong

2:11

to her attacker. For

2:14

seventeen months, Jason, Carol and his attorney

2:16

with the New England Innocence Project I've

2:19

been trying to get that evidence dna

2:21

tested. They. Think there's a

2:23

real sad that evidence could exonerate Jason.

2:26

But. The state of New Hampshire didn't. You.

2:29

Might remember they said there was

2:31

quote know scenario where dna testing

2:33

could exonerate Jason. So

2:36

they objected to Jason's requests for

2:38

dna testing. That.

2:40

Is. Until just a few days ago,

2:43

So. Did you celebrate? Ah,

2:51

Yes, I mean, I think I think. I

2:54

think I celebrate. I guess I would say

2:57

yes I celebrated. Ah. It's

2:59

weird to say that he would celebrate separately

3:01

from. Lisa Raitt the like. The weird thing was

3:03

that I wasn't able to see Jason that night

3:05

armed I've I've talked him on the phone and

3:07

though to be able to say it like debating

3:09

something for some and six degree from his birthday

3:12

when they're not there. Though

3:14

when I was finally able

3:16

to talk with him about

3:18

what happened, he was. sacked

3:21

shirt and a day and he essentially

3:23

said to me personally feel that crying

3:26

like a baby and as a meteor

3:28

like drawing up. And

3:30

he said it's the best is that hundred five years.

3:34

He said that the best news and thirty

3:36

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Do know. So.

5:40

Here's what happened. After Jason's

5:42

lawyer, Cynthia Musso found that box

5:44

of evidence, she filed a petition

5:46

with the court under a state

5:48

law specifically meant for just such

5:50

a moment. It's called the

5:53

post conviction that Dna testing law in

5:55

New Hampshire. The evidence

5:57

in question belongs to the court remembered

5:59

the bar hanging out for three decades

6:01

in their basement. Cynthia needs

6:03

a court order to get the stuff

6:06

tested. But the prosecutor

6:08

on the other side of this case,

6:10

charles Bugle, objected. By. The

6:12

Way: We requested an interview with Buca, but

6:14

a spokesperson for the Eighties office declined on

6:16

his behalf. So

6:19

with the state and Cydia taking different

6:21

positions that set up a hearing. The.

6:24

Two sides. We're going to do it out in front

6:26

of a judge and he would decide if testing was

6:28

going to happen. That's. Where we

6:30

left off in the series. So.

6:32

We were scheduled to have

6:34

a searing on this motion

6:37

in December. That's december of two

6:39

thousand and twenty three. And

6:41

about. Three. Days

6:43

before the hearing was supposed to start, we

6:45

got a call from the prosecutor. And

6:48

I didn't I didn't actually by this

6:50

the color or he had just emailed

6:52

me maybe and said give me a

6:54

call and I thought that he was

6:57

gonna agree. I and I told my

6:59

co council the time oh I like

7:01

I wonder if this is it like

7:03

they're going to agree to testing now.

7:06

And we called and.

7:10

The. It was clear from like the

7:12

first moment like his the tone of

7:14

voice that it was not a call

7:16

about agreeing with the call that something

7:19

else And I remember that when he

7:21

said. We. Found another box.

7:29

We. Sound Another box. Another,

7:32

but with more evidence from

7:34

the investigation into Sharon Johnson's

7:37

murder. I. Remember just sitting there

7:39

being like aren't even note say that

7:41

I think the proverbial. You know your

7:43

your jaw hit the floor is really

7:46

how I was feeling in that moment

7:48

and I think. That

7:51

was a huge shock to the. This

7:58

box let's got knocked number two. was

8:01

found in the basement of the former headquarters

8:03

of the New Hampshire Department of Justice. It

8:06

just so happens the New Hampshire

8:08

DOJ is moving offices and the

8:10

building is being torn down right

8:13

now. So in the process

8:15

of the big move someone's down in

8:17

the basement and they find this box that

8:20

says do not destroy Sharon

8:22

Johnson case. Kind

8:27

of amazing that the very first box

8:29

at the courthouse you stumbled

8:31

on that because this clerk

8:33

had happened to have listened to

8:36

the undisclosed podcast and then

8:38

the next box is discovered

8:41

through another sort of happenstance that the

8:44

building in which it's housed is being

8:46

demolished and if not for that you know maybe

8:49

it is maybe they wouldn't have found it. Exactly.

8:58

Remember Cynthia has been asking the state

9:00

for all the documents and evidence from

9:02

the investigation for years. By

9:05

this point the state had told her they'd

9:07

already turned over everything they could find. In

9:11

light of box number two the big hearing

9:13

that was supposed to happen in December gets

9:15

postponed. Instead the two

9:17

sides meet in front of the judge for what's

9:19

called a status conference. Basically a

9:22

check-in to see what the heck needs to happen now.

9:24

And at this

9:26

status conference Cynthia she's

9:28

a little annoyed. It's already been

9:30

more than a year since she found box

9:33

number one and filed the petition for DNA

9:35

testing and now things are

9:37

getting delayed because of some sloppy housekeeping by

9:39

the state. Cynthia wants

9:41

assurances from the prosecutor Charles Buca that

9:43

this isn't going to happen again. real

10:00

on-talk and you didn't know what to do. Great. I

10:03

had an argument. So the state police have... But

10:07

we know, we already know the answer to that. equally.

10:09

Well, who's the first? You. I'm

10:12

not the first. I'm not the first. I'm not

10:14

the first. I'm not the first. I'm not the

10:16

first. I'm not the first. I'm not the first.

10:18

I'm not the first. I'm not the first. But

10:22

we know, we already know the answer to that. So if that's what

10:24

PD is, we can contact them and make another equally. Well,

10:26

who's the first? You. You're the first. What

10:28

would you like me to do? I'd like you to return. You're

10:33

joking. I'm not about investigation. Maybe you

10:35

heard that quiet yep as Cynthia was

10:37

talking. That was the judge, William

10:39

Delker. He

10:42

basically agrees with Cynthia and

10:46

tells the state check everywhere again and file a

10:48

memo with the details of how you did that.

10:51

And so we were really grateful that the

10:53

court did that because what ended up happening was

10:57

that they found significantly more information.

11:01

At the Bedford Police Department, three more boxes. And

11:05

then the other one was the case. And then the other

11:07

one was the case. At the

11:09

Bedford Police Department, three more

11:11

boxes. And from the state

11:14

police, yep, 400

11:16

new pages of lab documents about the forensic evidence from

11:18

the case. And

11:21

just to be clear, do

11:23

you believe there was any sort of willful hiding of

11:25

this evidence? No. No.

11:28

Okay. This is bad record

11:30

keeping and poor communication, not a cover-up.

11:33

So the state turns over all this new

11:36

stuff to Cynthia in January and February. And

11:38

she's furiously sorting through those boxes and reading

11:40

through everything to see what it

11:42

all means. Meanwhile, the big

11:45

hearing to argue whether the evidence should

11:47

be DNA tested is rescheduled to the

11:49

end of April, as in this

11:52

April, 2024. Let's

11:56

talk about what was in those new boxes. Some

11:59

of it was stuffed in two boxes. Cynthia already had duplicates

12:01

of police reports from the discovery file things

12:04

like that but

12:06

it wasn't just paper inside

12:09

one of the boxes was a

12:11

shirt I've seen a photo it's

12:13

long-sleeved ribbed three buttons at the

12:16

top looks like a man's undershirt

12:18

it's white or it was it's

12:21

covered in stains some

12:23

black some brown some yellow it

12:26

was found in August of 1988 just after the murder a woman sought

12:31

lying on the side of the road in Bedford

12:33

about two and a half miles from where Sharon's

12:36

body was found and called the cops but

12:39

interestingly when it was tagged in

12:41

evidence they

12:44

labeled victim shirt yeah

12:46

they labeled it victims shirt you have any

12:49

idea why that happened any guess I

12:52

don't know I I don't

12:55

know the answer to that yeah I

12:57

have no way I have no idea I'm

13:00

not quite sure what to make of this either you

13:03

might remember the location of Sharon's missing

13:05

shirt was a big focus of the

13:07

investigation when state police

13:10

interrogated Jason they asked him about

13:12

it again and again they

13:14

never found it but

13:16

we know what shirt Sharon was wearing when she

13:18

left work that day and this isn't

13:20

it remember Sharon was

13:22

seven months pregnant when she was killed she

13:25

was last seen wearing what was likely a

13:27

maternity t-shirt with teddy bears and baby rattles

13:30

on it again this one looks

13:32

like a man's shirt according

13:34

to the police report the woman who found

13:36

the shirt and called police thought it might

13:38

belong to whoever had murdered Sharon so

13:42

I'm not sure how or why it ended

13:44

up labeled as victims shirt but it did

13:46

at any rate

13:48

it got added to the list of

13:50

items Cynthia wants DNA tested maybe

13:53

those stains are blood stains or

13:56

maybe it's just a painter or a mechanics

13:58

dirty work shirt Another

14:01

item that turned up in the new box is a

14:04

knife. This knife

14:06

was also found along the side of a

14:08

road in Bedford shortly after the murder. It

14:11

was another civilian who came across it, thought it

14:13

might be involved in the murder, they called police.

14:16

Just to be clear, the shirt and the

14:18

knife were found along two different roads in

14:20

Bedford by two different people. The

14:22

two areas are in opposite directions from the

14:25

crime scene. But the

14:27

knife was found less than a mile from

14:29

where Sharon's body was found. It's

14:31

described as a long blade, wood handle,

14:34

similar to what you'd find in a kitchen. Those

14:37

were two big pieces of physical

14:39

evidence obviously that we were really

14:41

interested in. And then obviously

14:44

the lab file has been really interesting for us

14:46

and one of the things that we found in

14:48

there was that there had been some a profile

14:52

generated from Ken Johnson's blood.

14:55

Two things I need to point out on this. One,

14:58

it's helpful that there's already a profile

15:01

of Sharon's husband Ken's blood. It'll

15:03

make it that much easier to know if any

15:05

DNA found on the evidence is his. The

15:09

second, and I think a lot more

15:11

interesting thing, is when this DNA

15:13

profile of Ken was generated. It's

15:16

a very strange scenario. So we

15:18

had noticed, and by we I

15:20

include you in that, we had

15:22

talked about this a while ago,

15:24

that we had seen custody logs

15:26

of Ken's blood tube. Ken

15:28

had his blood drawn at the Department of

15:30

Corrections when he was arrested for the crime.

15:33

And that blood tube had

15:35

ended up going to the state lab and you and I

15:37

had both noted that in 2004 it

15:39

was sent to the lab and it said DNA analysis. 2004. 16 years after the murder

15:42

and 13 years after prosecutors

15:49

dropped the charges against Ken Johnson,

15:51

New Hampshire State Police were generating

15:53

a profile of Ken's DNA. But

16:00

why would they be doing that in 2004? The

16:04

only reason I can guess that they

16:06

were doing it in 2004 is because

16:08

they were going to try and DNA

16:10

testings Related to

16:12

this case. I don't know what other reason there would

16:14

be The only other

16:16

thing I could think of is that the

16:19

national database for DNA was sort of

16:21

getting online at that time And perhaps

16:23

they were trying to put Ken's DNA

16:25

profile in Dicotis, but I don't

16:27

think I don't know if they would even be able to

16:29

do that Ken

16:32

hadn't been you know at that point.

16:34

He hadn't been convicted of anything There's

16:37

no record of what if anything Ken's

16:39

DNA was compared to in 2004 The

16:43

lab report only shows that DNA

16:45

profile was generated And

16:47

as far as CODIS goes that's the

16:50

National Law Enforcement DNA database Only

16:52

people who are convicted of certain crimes get

16:54

their DNA put into it That's

16:56

why Cynthia is mentioning that Ken hadn't been

16:58

convicted of anything in 2004 Complicating

17:03

this further is one thing that has always

17:05

bothered me. I don't

17:07

know exactly when Ken Johnson died

17:11

According to records from the state by 2006 they

17:13

were told he was dead So

17:17

maybe in 2004 Ken was still alive

17:19

and state police were taking one last

17:21

crack at connecting him to the murder

17:24

with DNA evidence But

17:26

then how could it Ken

17:29

was Sharon's husband? It wouldn't

17:31

exactly be damning evidence if Ken's DNA

17:33

was found on Sharon's body One

17:38

last thing about this minor mystery of Ken's

17:40

DNA It set up a

17:42

pretty ironic situation Where

17:44

the state was about to argue

17:46

in 2024 against post conviction DNA

17:48

testing in this case When

17:51

they had apparently done it themselves or

17:53

maybe were about to in Cynthia

18:02

added the white shirt and the knife to the

18:04

list of items she wants DNA tested. The

18:07

full list was now up to about a dozen, depending on

18:09

how you count them. It

18:11

includes the fingernail cuttings, some of

18:13

Sharon's clothing, cigarette butts from her

18:16

car, various samples taken from

18:18

her body, Jason's pocket knife,

18:20

the alleged murder weapon, and

18:22

bloody soil samples from the crime scene. And

18:25

then, Cynthia prepared for the hearing.

18:30

Cynthia assembled a cast of heavy

18:32

hitter expert witnesses to explain what

18:34

might seem like an obvious point,

18:37

that DNA testing could reveal who

18:39

killed Sharon. There

18:42

was Tim Palmbach, 22 years in

18:44

law enforcement, Connecticut state trooper, detective.

18:47

Before he retired, he ran the entire forensic

18:49

lab for the state of Connecticut. He's

18:52

been called as an expert witness in lots

18:54

of high-profile cases, like the murder trial of

18:56

Michael Peterson. That's the staircase trial

18:58

for those who've seen the documentary. More

19:01

recently, Tim testified in the murder trial

19:03

of former South Carolina attorney Alex Murdock.

19:07

There was Carl Reich, 22

19:09

years experience in biochemistry, Cornell,

19:11

UCLA, Harvard, Stanford, lawyers

19:13

for Steven Avery, the subject of the

19:15

Making a Murderer documentary, hired him as

19:18

a consultant. There

19:20

was Haley Cleary, a psychologist, professor,

19:22

and expert in juvenile false confessions.

19:24

She knows this case well. She

19:27

was on Robby Chaudry's podcast,

19:29

Undisclosed, to analyze Jason's confession.

19:32

Cynthia even consulted with an expert

19:35

in genetic genealogy, a woman

19:37

named Barbara Ray Venter. Yes,

19:40

that Barbara Ray Venter, the

19:43

one who identified Terry Rasmussen and

19:45

three of the victims from season

19:47

one of this podcast. The

19:50

challenge is going to be getting usable

19:52

DNA because those bodies were out there

19:54

exposed to the New Hampshire winters for

19:56

between five and 20 years. You

20:09

were ready. I was ready.

20:12

Yeah, I'm still ready. Yeah,

20:14

I was ready. And

20:17

then, just last Thursday, on the

20:19

eve of the hearing, the

20:21

state reversed course. It

20:24

is dropping its objection to DNA

20:26

testing. But

20:28

it is still reserving the right

20:31

to argue about whether any results

20:33

exonerate Jason. Officially,

20:35

the deal still needs to be OK by the

20:37

judge, but there's not much doubt he will. By

20:40

the way, the fact this just happened is

20:42

the reason you're not hearing from Jason in

20:44

this episode. The logistics of getting on

20:46

the phone with him can be complicated, and there

20:48

just wasn't enough time. I

20:51

asked Cynthia what she made of the timing of

20:53

all of this. This is the thing

20:55

about the court system, is that it doesn't work

20:57

the way people think it does. All

20:59

of the things that you think about court

21:02

just aren't real. The

21:04

reality is that deals get made

21:06

on the night before trials all the time,

21:09

and it comes down to lots of things.

21:12

I have no idea what the actual reason in

21:14

this particular case was. I'd

21:17

like to think that it's the fact that we

21:19

were prepared. We had given our reports

21:21

over. The state looked at those, and

21:23

they realized that, as they

21:25

set in their motion, that we're going to be prepared to

21:27

be able to prove those things. And

21:30

they thought that we were going to be successful in that,

21:32

and they decided to agree to testing and

21:35

save us all the trouble of the hearing.

21:39

Do I wish that this happened a

21:41

long time ago? Yeah. It

21:45

could be 34 years, not 35 years

21:47

for Jason if we had rewound the

21:49

clock to when we originally had filed

21:51

this petition. years.

22:01

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can and boom instant feeding and bigger more

24:04

beautiful plants. It's kind of like a sports

24:06

drink for your plants. You may have to

24:08

suffer from heat but your plants do not.

24:14

The agreement between Cynthia and the state

24:16

is that the state forensic lab will handle

24:19

the first stage of the DNA testing. It's

24:22

called quantitative testing. Basically

24:24

how much DNA is there on any particular piece

24:26

of evidence to begin with. But

24:29

even getting there will be complicated.

24:32

So for example the shirt right. You

24:35

don't just take the shirt and go DNA test the

24:37

shirt. There's not like a machine where

24:39

you can put the shirt in and and then

24:41

just type in DNA please and then it gives

24:43

you the profile right. Doesn't work like that. So

24:46

we have to figure out the places on

24:48

the shirt that we think there's most likely

24:50

to be DNA that

24:52

we can even collect in the first place. Forensic

24:55

experts from both sides will have to go

24:57

through each piece of evidence one by one

25:00

and decide what's the best place to

25:02

try and find DNA on this object.

25:04

You know what parts of this this

25:07

stuff are we swabbing or cutting or

25:09

whatever and then after we do

25:11

the quarant we figure out what

25:13

the right method of testing will be. And

25:17

about what kind of a time frame are

25:20

we talking about here? It's hard to tell. We

25:23

asked for a six-month

25:25

check-in to see you know sort of what was going on.

25:27

That's a check-in with the

25:29

judge in six months. Doesn't necessarily

25:31

mean anything will have happened by

25:33

then. This kind of work can take

25:35

a long time especially if

25:37

there's degraded DNA which is a real

25:39

possibility given how long this stuff has

25:41

been sitting around in boxes. There's

25:44

also a 10-month backlog at the

25:47

state lab the only DNA

25:49

testing and analysis provider in New Hampshire.

25:51

So it could

25:54

be a while. All

25:56

right the last thing I want to do

25:58

is briefly talk about some scenarios.

26:02

Give me the best case

26:04

scenario for you. I

26:06

think the best case scenario is we get a

26:08

profile on some of those items that

26:11

doesn't match Jason, Ken, or Tony.

26:14

We're able to take that profile and enter

26:16

it into CODIS, which is the National DNA

26:18

Database. There is a match

26:20

in CODIS to sort of a

26:22

known other perpetrator from somewhere

26:24

else. That obviously has nothing to do

26:27

with Ken, Jason, and Tony, and we think that

26:29

that would be pretty clear at that point that

26:31

Jason wasn't involved. And

26:33

what about a scenario where, let's say,

26:35

Tony's DNA is found on some of

26:37

the items? Yeah, so

26:39

there would be a lot of reasons why

26:41

that could happen that don't have anything to

26:44

do with Tony being involved, because Tony was

26:46

involved with the family, right? So Tony

26:48

had connections with Sharon's stepdaughter,

26:51

Lisa, so there's like

26:53

lots of reasons why we wouldn't be surprised

26:55

if Tony's DNA was on some things. It's

26:58

the same with Ken's, right? So like it wouldn't

27:00

be a total shock if we found Ken's DNA,

27:02

obviously, anything in Sharon's car, because

27:04

Ken and Sharon were married. So your

27:07

DNA can get shed from all

27:09

kinds of things. It's not just, you know,

27:11

saliva and, you know, bodily fluids. It's all

27:13

kinds of stuff. But, you know,

27:15

those would be trickier scenarios. So in the event

27:18

that it's something that, you know, we're gonna

27:20

have to make an argument about with the state, what would

27:22

happen is, you know, we would find out some of

27:24

these things. Possibly some of that

27:26

stuff would lead us to further investigation or

27:30

have further investigative leads for us, and

27:32

maybe not. Or maybe we would

27:34

get these DNA results and say, you know, none

27:36

of this matches Jason, but

27:39

there's some things in here that match Ken. And so

27:41

then it's a question of like, well, what does that

27:43

mean for the case at large? So that's going to

27:45

be a matter for the court to decide, you

27:48

know, when we get the results back. Do

27:51

you think in that scenario you just mentioned

27:53

where, you know, Jason's DNA

27:56

isn't found on anything, Is

27:58

that a strong enough case for you?? The To.

28:01

Requester every trial. If

28:04

jason dna is not on. Anything at

28:06

all. This

28:08

is a very close contact. Very.

28:12

Internet. Very

28:14

violent encounter. To

28:17

the Sasha Jesus dna wouldn't appear on.

28:19

Anything. Of Sharon's

28:21

ah or anywhere near her

28:23

would be. To. My.

28:27

From. My perspective. Very.

28:29

Strange if you're arguing that Jason was

28:31

involved in it. Though

28:34

from my perspective, I think it's certainly arguable

28:36

that the jury should have known at the

28:38

time it's this is this would make a

28:40

difference to the jury, than the jury should

28:42

know it, and I think he's entitled to

28:44

a retrial. So.

28:47

What is? The Dna

28:49

comes back in his Jason's.

28:52

Do. You do you think about A Do you

28:54

let yourself think about that possibility? I

28:59

don't expect it's gonna be decent. It's such

29:01

it's such a remote part that's such a

29:03

remote possibility or be from my perspective having

29:05

like viewed all the evidence and case I

29:08

just I don't I don't believe that that's

29:10

gonna be the case but if that was

29:12

to happen. To. Me, that's

29:14

not even sort of the worst case

29:16

scenario mean that would be in and

29:18

the case obviously would be the end

29:20

of that. but that the. Gradual.

29:23

Reality is it's gonna be a lot more

29:25

anxiety producing for be. If there's

29:27

a scenario where like. You

29:30

know, stations excluded from everything because then it's gonna

29:32

be an argument over what does this mean? It's

29:34

not going to be automatically that just gets a

29:36

retrial is going to like was just beat. them

29:38

are going to have to of an archer They

29:40

offer what's it like? Me. You

29:43

I believe I believe Jason and I believe in

29:45

Jason and I believe this case and I and

29:47

I would be shocked to find that it was

29:49

just did. The.

29:53

Now we get a chance to find out. That's

29:55

right now he is has to find out. If.

29:59

There's ideas. And making. It

30:05

didn't go to court and it a winning core.

30:07

We didn't have this dramatic you know, sort of

30:09

like. Pay back the

30:11

hearing and like a big opinion or

30:14

any these things it's like we have

30:16

disagreements. Agreement has done right as great.

30:20

But it feels really like less

30:22

dramatic, sort of those like tv

30:24

shows or whatever that you get

30:26

to say. This

30:28

the such a vast his masters

30:30

when thirty said. There

30:33

was no guarantees here and now we're going

30:35

to be able to move forward. To

30:39

the gate In our the gates open. The

30:42

gate was locked. Gate

30:46

was locked. When

30:48

we ended the series last year, I

30:50

said the only question last was whether

30:52

our system of justice was willing to

30:55

keep looking for the truth is it

30:57

was willing to revisit it's own true

30:59

crime story. It's

31:02

taken seventeen months, but now the

31:04

system stumbling a little reluctant

31:07

has given us an answer. Yes,

31:12

The gate was locked. Now

31:14

let's find out what's any other side. barbara

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